Posted by NateW on Mon, 08/01/2005 - 21:18 :: Reducing Problem Behaviors
I emailed this advice to someone earlier today and I thought I'd re-post it here...

Solving biting problems comes down to four principles:

1) Anything that makes you parrot think of you as a source of good things, is good.

2) Anything that makes your parrot think of you as a source of scary things, is bad.

3) Don't let the bird bite you. If the bird bites you once, the bird has a problem and its behavior needs to change. If the bird bites you twice, your behavior needs to change too. You can change your behavior a lot faster than you can change your bird's behavior.

4) Don't react to bites. Parrots enjoy the excitement.

Memorize these things and live by them. :-) In more detail:

1) Find out what the bird's favorite foods are, and use those treats to reward the bird any time it does the right thing. Step up? Good bird, here's your reward.

Birds will not behave according to a sense of duty or obligation. They'll do whatever they thing is in their best interest. Fortunately it's not too hard to show that them stepping up is in their best interest - just give the bird a treat. If you train without rewarding the bird for doing the right thing, training will take a lot longer than it should, and it will be much less effective. All you're doing is teaching the bird that you will force it to do what you want it to do, and that is not conducive to a better relationship. If you reward good behavior, you're teaching the bird that you are a source of good things, that hanging out with you is fun, and that when you show up, it's easy to earn treats.

2) Forget the "evil eye" stuff. People recommend that sometimes and I think it's bunk for several reasons. It's impossible to say for sure why your bird is biting, but chances are very good that it fears you. The evil eye treatment will not help with that whatsoever. That MIGHT (if you are very very very lucky) teach the bird to fear biting you, but most likely it will teach the bird to fear you, period. That will not help the biting problem. Do not use punishment to train parrots, ever. It will do more harm than good.

Parrots aren't like cats and dogs, they aren't domesticated and they don't have any bred-in trust for human beings. So there's a very fine line between "people are scary" and "people are nice to hang out with."

That's also the possibility that the bird enjoys the attention when you give it the evil eye. If the bird is sitting in a cage all day long, then anything that gets your undivided attention for 15 seconds is worth doing again.

3) Just stay out of striking distance. If the bird bites you, and you go away, the bird learns that biting the scary person makes the scary person go away. That means you're even more likely to be bit next time. If the bird bites you and you scream, the bird learns that biting makes exciting things happen (and again, you're even more likely to get bit next time). In short, if you get bit, there's a good chance that the bird will learn something that makes biting even more likely. But if you don't get bit, at least your chances of getting bit again won't be even higher next time.

Besides, bites hurt. Parrots crack nuts for a living, and nuts are harder than fingers.

4) Should be obvious by now. :-)
Posted by tobys mom on Tue, 10/04/2005 - 08:03.
I just bought a greencheek 10 days ago that is 5 months old..he was so sweet at the store, but now that he is home, he is very nippy. This is suppose to be family bird..but now the kids won't go near it. I've read about some ideas to train it not to, but i'm wondering if he was too old when I got him....HELP!
Posted by NateW on Tue, 10/04/2005 - 08:54.
He's probably scared of his new surroundings, the new people, the new things going on around him, and so on. 5 months doesn't seem old to me at all. Also, see this article, on taming and earning your bird's trust:

http://www.featherforum.com/article/taming

Nate Waddoups
Redmond WA USA
Posted by jtholley03 on Wed, 10/05/2005 - 12:02.
Agree with the google eyed thing - it can mean anything. Sometimes it is just the bird trying to focus right in front of the beak. Sometimes it is the bird being very happy. AND of course sometimes it is the warning. But they all look the same or very close to the same.

I know you always suggest the passive thing Nate. But I have always dealt with birds that have previous owners. And most people teach their bird to bite.

I always push into the beak with my finger when a bird catches me off guard. This throws the birds balance off and gives it a mouth full of finger that it didn't expect.

But you are right in attempting the passive thing.

Clicker training with a spoon and treats for new birds is a good thing too.
Posted by NateW on Wed, 10/12/2005 - 22:29.
I like the 'push into the beak' idea in theory... but haven't tried it myself so I prefer to stick with what I know.

Nate Waddoups
Redmond WA USA
Posted by kw0375 on Thu, 06/01/2006 - 19:57.
Hi everyone. I am only new, but I do have 4 parrots and 2 of them are aviary breed.
I have also noticed that my ringnecks do use their beak as a kind of 'feeler', which can be mistaken for biting.

I have read a lot of solutions including:
- use a perch as an extension of your hand
- gloves
- pushing into the beak
etc etc

I find if you give the bird something else to think about this works the best. Like a toy, food, something fun, or make them step up. I am training one of my ringnecks now, who has a nasty bite, using the distration technique.

Hope this helps.
Posted by Blue Moon on Mon, 07/24/2006 - 12:43.
I myself am using gloves. This seems to be working. I tryed the push back beak thing and at first it worked but then she bit down even harder and meaner. The next day she sat on my finger with a few nip here and there. When she steps off, my finger is hovering in the air ans she dosnt like it near her head so I am making sure to be fast in that case.
Posted by xiii on Fri, 09/14/2007 - 03:06.
what is this distration technique i got indian ringneck female she came out of abusive house but i got her 2 take food out my hand but she bites the crap outa me if u could help me out please
Posted by mimismom on Mon, 01/28/2008 - 14:12.
I am new. I do not know a lot about birds. I had a few when I was a kid.I got a bird for Christmas.It was at a pet store. They said it had been hand fed. They said it is about 5 or 6 months old. I do not know if it is a she or a he. I call it MIMI. I do not know if it is a indian ringneck or an african Ringneck. I have read 3 books on birds. I am very happy with her but I do have a bad problem. She started by trying to bite me on my finger then she got my arm one day and made it bleed. We are trying to teach her to step up and she is doing good. She comes out of her cage and sits on my sholder. Last week she started to bite my ears this week she is trying to bite my face and my eyes. I am a little scared of her now. I need any help I can get. please help me.
Mandy
Posted by Kaylee Washam on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 00:22.
Hi, I am also new. I've got a little parakeet that's about 4 months old. I got him close to Thanksgiving. He is getting much better about biting but he does it sometimes. I've tried pushing the beek in and that works pretty well, depending on what he's got himself latched onto. I can't figure out what his favorite treats are! He likes his seeds, and everything else .... well .... nothing seems to get him all that excited. Anyone know what most parakeets just LOVE to eat? I am blind so I don't use gloves. I need to be able to feel what's happening. I don't react to the bite, unless it's a really hard surprise one. Then, I might make a noise, but I try to nip it in the bud so it's not that exciting. He can really bite the pee wadden out of me though if he wants to. I don't think it's fear. Really I don't. Seems like if it was fear he'd be doing it all the time. Thanks for any help. Kaylee
Posted by Jane on Tue, 07/29/2008 - 08:18.
I have a 11 year old male sun conure that just in the past month has started biting my mouth, so much so that he almost pieced my lower lip. The first time he did it I was wear lipstick, which I usually have on. So I stopped wear lipstick around him. The next time I thought it was my new shiny eye glasses so I stopped wearing them around him. But he did it again the other day. I am not chewing gum, have nothing in my mouth or even talking when he does this. I just don't know what to do. Any thoughts?