Mike B or Clive? How 'bout it?
lisa
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement."

Can you do it on a temporary trial - heh.

Also are they both the same sex would be a more important issue :)

Yes they are both males.

lisa
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement."

I have been in a few houses with many birds. Will go from best to TOTAL FREAK - no names. All normal houses.

Breeder in CO:
Too's in one room, others scatter in various rooms in the house. Hawkheadeds, Palms, Macaws.

All but a Hyacinth were set up as young ones that were paired and growing up. I must say it was a damned quiet house. Quieter than most one bird houses. But these birds were cleaned 2X's a day.

Watched one of the breeder Macaws nearly take of the guys finger. Was about a one second ordeal took his finger to the bone as he yanked it away.

House 2
One room 3 cockatoos - closed door - god help you if you walk in.
Other room - 1 timneh grey, one umbrella, B&G, GW all getting along peacefully. THEN I come in. Everyone was really cool in there own space. By this I mean Grey and B&G on their own stand. B&G cage in the room. GW on or in his cage. Umbrella on top of s/his cage. All was fine until I had the B&G on one arm and the GW on the other. Actually things were cool at that point. But we all know Macaws now don't we. The B&G (as calm and stealthy as Ty the terror) calmly walked onto the GW's cage. The human in the house was calm and cool and watching while all this was happening so I thought OK. WRONG. The GW jumped on the cage and went after the B&G. I ended up sticking my arm in-between and having my hand in the GW's mouth. I got it borken up tho.

House 3
One room full of perches. Cages in 3 different rooms and outside cage-aviary.
All seemed to get along fine as they had their own place.

Now here is the wildest on. Figure a 70's split level house. 2000 sq.ft. There is a fellow I visted here in Vienna, VA some 10 yrs ago. Dude had 400+ birds in his house!!!!! I am not exagerating. The house was floor to ceiling cages and just enough room to walk sideways. Air quality aside I have no idea how he cleaned the cages. But they were clean.

Sory to rant but it certainly comes down to the bird/owner relationship and history.

What is the other macaw like when you see him? Has Z been around him?

I had a Hahns, Alexandrine and Severe together no problem. No cages even. Just their own perches. AND they were at my girlfriends house (now my wife).

PS I have TONS of good judgement in a couple areas - heh.

Thanks J that's helpful. The B&G you describe sounds exactly like Zaz - constantly chasing him off the other birds' cages and gyms. Zaz and Mouse are both pretty aggressive about it. The U2 and RLA both are very respectful of other birds' space and stuff.

Would only consider adopting the GW if i move into multiple rooms, a good possibility soon. So i'd be able to juggle them in different rooms if necessary.


lisa
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement."

It sounds like you already know what you are in for!?

Are all 4 of your birds in one room now?

Yep. Life is never boring...
lisa
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement."

Hi Lisa, sounds like youy are having fun!! I believe as JT says you are well aware of what you are getting into. I beleive all things can work if the correct approach and the right ammount of time is allowed.

I believe the most important thing is getting off to the right start with prplanning so no bad habits are allowed to develop.

If anybody can make it work you can!

Clive Jeffrey