Posted by Lisa Phoenix on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 19:05 :: General Discussion
Distressed by the horror stories on MYTOOS and other sites, prompted to get on my soapbox.

The larger toos are smart, sensitive, highly emotional birds who can make great companions, IF you're willing to work with them.

They benefit from lots of exercise, so keeping (or getting)them flighted and giving them flight space is important. There's really no substitute for this and it works wonders on rehab birds with a bitey history.

They also do best with some amount of OC training. My U2 loves to play basketball. They are capable of learning long sequences of behaviors and quite challenging "tricks," but even simple tricks can be good distractors and soothers.

There's nothing wrong with giving your young 'too lots of attention and affection, AND it's important to engage their birdbrains and foster independance. Sometimes you have to do a little teaching so they learn that puzzles and forage boxes, etc are rewarding. My macaw is happy just destroying stuff, but my too is the puzzle queen (she only destroys shoes, and i provide her with old ones for this purpose).

If you're willing to make the effort with these very labor-intensive bids then they can be the smart, affectionate bird of your dreams. If it all sounds like too much, then they are not the birds for you!

My U2 was my first "big bird." i adopted her when she was three and she's now in her late teens. She has found ways to befriend multiple rehab dogs and birds, and is the most socially savvy critter in the house. She has NEVER bitten, is trustworthy on my shoulder, does am/pm contact calls but has also learned to "whistle" and has a variety of pleasnat vocalizations, and will happily spend hours in my lap watching the telly or show off her latest behavior for visitors. Can't imagine life without her, and i would get another in a heartbeat.
Posted by jtholley03 on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 19:14.
HA - no really I agree.

I think Mozart was a worse case scenario. And one that was cuddled constantly and never taught to play with toys. We did make some progress with her but a 20 year old bird in 6 weeks is not a realistic scenario.

Sorry I was on the down side of this equation.

I have had an Elanora (Medium Sulfer Crested) which are also know to be on the louder side. He would let it roll for about 10 minutes in the morning and evening but other than that was a pretty quiet bird. He would get really going when we would turn up music for him - very funny to watch.

But as you pointed out he loved his toys. Actually only thing he needed was wood. I would replace his 2x4 wood perch about one a week. That was all he needed. He would go to town on that until it was done.

Haven't been to Mytoo's site. See no reason to go there.

Glad you put it back on the positive note.
Posted by Lisa Phoenix on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 20:30.
i think you did a great job with Mozart. Agreed that she's a project that will require years, not weeks, of patient work.

Funny you should mention your E2's love of loud music - Pongo likes loud screechy metal cranked as loud as as possible and will dance and clown around as long as it's playing. Too bad her taste in music is atrocious (my teenage son would disagree). In the middle of a recent thunderstorm she emptied her water dish flinging water everywhere and dancing in delight. If i want to get her in the mood for a shower all i have to do is turn on the shop vac.

i wonder if the MYTOOS folks get stuck in a cycle of trying to out-do one another with their horror stories. Not very productive, IMHO...
lisa
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from poor judgement."