My cage for Aderyn is about 16w x 24l x 24h... It fits her fine, but I don't know how much bigger Tango is than Addie... Addie's pretty small, being a GCC... and she's a bit runty on top of it, so...

Darby
Aderyn (GCC)
and Salty (budgie)

I think they are both the same size, or close to it. PFC's (I guess there aren't a lot of people with them as they aren't given an acroynm here) get to be about 10".

I'd like one 24 x 24 x maybe 31 high with a top that opens to play, but perhaps that is excessive. I keep reading to get the biggest one that you can afford and I know that eventually I will want a friend for her, perhaps a Hahn's Macaw (small too) and would love if they decided to share a cage eventually.

Thanks for your reply :) How is she doing, by the way?


Tara & Tango
"Use the talents you possess - for the woods would be a very silent place if no birds sang except for the best." ~Henry Van Dyke

This place has good prices:
http://www.birdandcage.com/iron.html
though I've never ordered from them. They have a 26x20" cage with 1/2 spacing - I've seen this size cage sold many other places too.

I don't know if caging a peach front with a Hahn's macaw will be a good idea. There's still a size difference and more importantly, a big difference in beak strength.


Karen
Chico (conure) and Pippin (budgie)
WI

Thank you so much for your comment and for the link. I am looking at it now. I have no idea what type of second bird, if any, I will eventually get, though I know it will be years down the road. while I'd love for any future birds to get along well together, I'd never cage them together unless for some really odd reason they just decided that is the way they wanted it...I am coming to find that conures at least, try to run the show, as much as they are able. How does Chico do with Pippin? I ask as my kids are in love with Tango and a Budgie would be good for them if they ever wanted one of their own (they are teens and making noise that they would).

Thanks again,
Tara & Tango
"Use the talents you possess - for the woods would be a very silent place if no birds sang except for the best." ~Henry Van Dyke

You really don't need a cage nearly as big as you were considering if it will only be housing your one peachfront and he's out a lot - although I wouldn't recommend anything smaller if you do hope to keep 2 together at some time.
Chico and Pippin do pretty well together. I already knew Chico had a pretty gentle personality before I got Pippin. They spend the days safely together out of their cages, but I wouldn't cage them together. Pippin does his best at being an annoying little brother - likes to try to steal Chico's treats, or pull her tail when she's not looking.
One thing with budgies though, is that they're at least halfway to being domesticated. It means they tend to tame easily and make good pets (males can be really good talkers), but they also have a lot more health issues compared to parrots like conures who've only been bred in captivity a few generations. I've spent more in vet bills on Pippin that I have on Chico even though I've only had him half as long.

Karen
Chico (conure) and Pippin (budgie)
WI

Thanks again...and I love the pictures you posted. What size cage are you using for Chico? Tango's cage is more of a breeder cage...she likes to climb and will be in it more as I begin working more, so I would like for her to have more vertical inches than she has now. I'd also like a play top and something more solid...and yes...aesthetically pleasing :)

Tara & Tango
"Use the talents you possess - for the woods would be a very silent place if no birds sang except for the best." ~Henry Van Dyke

Chico's cage is on the small side - about 18x18x24", which works as she's out all day. I would definitely get something bigger if she was in it part of the day.
Unlike my budgie who only uses the top of his cage, Chico uses her entire cage. In fact, she prefers toys on the bottom of her cage to hanging toys and especially likes toys she can smash against the sides of her cage to make lots of noise.

Karen
Chico (conure) and Pippin (budgie)
WI

We have a 38W x 30D x 66H cage for our Sun Conure. It may seem too large for him but he loves it and uses 100% of it. I don't feel as bad if I can't let him out much one day because I am confident that he will get plenty of exercise. We call it his castle. It is the same size cage that we keep our eclectus in. If you are able to spend the money, I would definately recommend it. Plus, you can fit tons of on toys and swings and perches.

Thank you so much for taking the time to comment. Given that this cage will be her home for hopefully a very long time, and that I don't know what my job situation may be like in the future, I'd rather err on the side of caution and get the largest cage with 1/2" spacing I can afford. I've had Tango almost 3 weeks and she is getting far more comfortable and active...very inquisitive etc. I'd like for her to have room to play if I cannot have her out on her playgym all of the time. I would also eventually like to let her wings grow out and it would be nice for her to have enough room to flap them safely. I don't know if I can afford quite as large as you have, but I can either do a 26 x 20 x 36 (nice with thick, welded bars and a seed catcher attached) or a very plain 31 x 22 x 35 (which I could definitely afford, but lacks the seed catcher sides and has thinner bars). Do you recommend the thicker sized bars? What about size versus construction? Some people really recommend welded joints, thicker bars etc.

Thanks for your time
Tara & Tango
"Use the talents you possess - for the woods would be a very silent place if no birds sang except for the best." ~Henry Van Dyke

A small conure isn't going to be able to destroy even a relatively flimsy cage (unlike some large parrots)... so you don't really have to worry about that. You want something with reasonably durable powdercoating, to prevent her peeling paint off, and latches, grate and tray that work without scraping the paint.
I would get the cage with mess catchers if she'll be spending a lot of time on top of the cage (where she might poop over the edge) or if you're worried about her throwing food out of the cage. Otherwise, try the larger cage and if necessary put up acrylic panels outside food dishes so she doesn't throw food out of the cage too much.
I don't have a cage with mess catchers, but the birds' playgyms have mess catchers. They eat their messy foods on the playgyms and they do help contain a lot of the thrown food.



Karen
Chico (conure) and Pippin (budgie)
WI

Thanks again, Karen :)

I am leaning towards one with mess catchers, as I would like for her to have somewhere different to hang out in each room she spends time in. Right now, I carry her playgym from room to room. I was thinking cage with playtop or at least a top that open for a perch in the main room, a tree stand in the dining room, the playgym in the computer/game room and perhaps a small t-stand or tree in the bedroom (where my computer is). The cage is the only thing I cannot make myself :).

Another question, for those not tired of me yet :). Tango's breeder has a huge dislike of dometop cages. I understand the problems with round cages, but don't know what problems there may be with a dome top. Does anyone have any idea? Also, I know that any safe wood you gather for perches, etc. must be cleaned well and 'baked' to kill insects....how would one go about cleaning a large branch for a bird tree? My oven isn't THAT big :)

Tara & Tango
"Use the talents you possess - for the woods would be a very silent place if no birds sang except for the best." ~Henry Van Dyke